Video Summary
Join us to learn how to simply run NLG's FlexLife IUL. Breakdown how to solve for premium/death benefit depending on the client’s needs, and how the IUL can fit any client situation. This session provides actionable tips for you to start writing and earning with NLG FlexLife IUL.
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Good morning, everyone. I am Crystal Bustillos, live marketing
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support here at the brokerage. Um, and welcome to today's
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webinar. It's, uh, in regards to National Life Group's
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FlexLife IUL. And with me today I have my
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colleague Colby Cox, who knows everything about National
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Life Group. So I'm so happy he's here and joined us today.
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So, um, before we get started, I do want to mention
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that this webinar is being recorded.
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You will receive the link, uh, when I have that ready to go, along with pieces of
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information that you're gonna see throughout today's webinar.
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If you have any questions, feel free to type them in the Q&A and
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chat feature. Colby will be able to answer them probably on the spot,
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um, and I'll help him out if he misses one. So no worries there.
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But thank you, Colby, for doing this webinar today and
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talking a little bit about National Life Group.
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Yeah, appreciate that. Um, please
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from the get-go, you have a question, ask away.
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I know National Life is a relatively
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new carrier for us here at the brokerage.
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It is not new to me. Just a little background, 'cause you probably
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have not seen my face much, um, out there
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and publicly put, put out there yet.
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But, um, before I joined the brokerage, I was an agent and I ran an
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agency for ten and a half years. Um, National Life Group was a
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flagship carrier of, uh, ours at that
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agency I was at. Um, we were one of their top
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agencies
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throughout pretty-- almost every, every year, but, um, specifically in the
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state of Texas. Um, lot of pressure, Crystal, you put on me
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to say I know everything about NLG.
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I certainly don't, um, but I know where to find the, the right
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answer. Um, so today we're specifically talking
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FlexLife IUL. That is National Life Group's flagship
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product across the board. Okay? Um, if you're familiar with
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IUL, if you pay attention to the industry, National Life, I
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think for the last four years, has had the number one selling IUL
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based on number of applications signed and sold, and
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that is their FlexLife product. Um, they're continuing to make
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enhancements to it. Um, you, you...
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I won't-- I'm not gonna sit out here, 'cause I'm not objective with it as far as
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saying, "Hey, it's the best," but you certainly
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cannot go wrong, um, with National Life Group.
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Uh, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna start with i-if you forget everything I've
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said today, I want you to remember the one thing I'm about to show you, because
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this is really where National Life Group
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shines. This is where they make their hay.
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And if you give me one second, I'll just share my screen.
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Choo, choo, choo, choo. Okay, right
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there. If anybody can't
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see my screen, let me know, but I-- we should be able to see it.
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Um, National Life Group makes their hay with living benefits.
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They are the originator of living benefits.
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They've had living benefits for over a hundred years on their products.
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They even have a marketing piece on their website, and, um,
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that talks about the first ever living benefit they put on a
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policy. Um, and so this living benefit lineup kinda
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compares them and a lot of our top carriers
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that we work with and that you work with. Um, but I just...
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I wanna make note, these, the order is not anything but
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alphabetical, okay? So it's not from best to worst.
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But I just want you to look at National Life, and when you compare them,
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and that is some terrible drawing on that, but if you compare them
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to everybody else, um,
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on this
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lineup, they have everything. They've got terminal
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illness, and it goes twenty-four months, where a lot of carriers only go
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twelve. They have, uh, both a chronic illness that's
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discounted. They added last year a, um,
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premium chronic care rider that works very similarly
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to long, like traditional long-term care.
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Um, their critical illness, critical injury, they've got more
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triggers than anybody. They're the only ones with Alzheimer's.
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They're the only ones-- I'm sorry, not the only ones, but they're one of two
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that have a lifetime income benefit rider.
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Um, and they're one of two that have a value-added benefit with their Home
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Thrive that again, they just added, uh, either last
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year, I wanna say last year, but maybe the year before.
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Um, so if you forget everything from this point forward,
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just remember that living benefits are, is where it's at for
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them. All right? You, you would be hard-pressed to find a
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carrier that has a more robust lineup
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than National Life. Okay? So let's kinda get
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into it. Um,
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National Life has three
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IULs primarily that they, um, that they sell.
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They actually have a fourth one that's a, a second to die, but I'm not gonna talk
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about that today. Um, they've got the Rapid Protect, the
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FlexLife, and the Summit. Real quickly, Rapid Protect is a rapid
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issue IUL designed to be issued in five to ten
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minutes, okay? Uh, it is really only for
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protection, okay? It does have cash value, but it's not
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designed for cash accumulation. It's for somebody that really wants their
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coverage and they want it now, along with the living benefits.
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That's the Rapid Protect. And if you jump over to the far right, you've got the
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Summit Life. And the Summit Life is designed for your high
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net worth people, okay? I call them my HENRY people.
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High earner, not rich yet. Um, people that make a hundred and fifty
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thousand, maybe even a hundred and eighty thousand or more a
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year. Uh, the Summit Life starts at a million dollars of death benefit.
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Okay? So it has a few additional bells and whistles, um, that
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the Rapid Protect or the FlexLife don't have.
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Um, but again, it's designed for the high net worth
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individual.The FlexLife, that is, like I said, the bread and
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butter. That's the flagship product.
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Anybody from any- anybody can have it.
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Um, I, I've sold it for kids looking for cash value
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for education expenses. I've sold it to,
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um, older generation that wants the protection with the
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living benefits. Okay? It really can be designed in a multitude of ways, and that's
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the product that we're gonna talk about today. All right.
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So
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here we are. This is the website, um, you get access to
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their website once you get appointed.
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So if you haven't got appointed, go to the, the broker link,
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uh, National Life user AssuranceBase.
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So link up to our AssuranceBase account and you can request that contract.
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But this is what the portal will look like.
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Uh, I won't spend today focusing...
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We have a very limited time. Um, we can do another webinar another
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day on how to navigate the back office website.
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Um, but I want you to focus right over here to this little puzzle piece that says
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Illustrations. This is where you do all their illustrations.
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Now, National Life has a life illustration portal and an annuity
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illustration portal. Um, so make sure you choose the life one, 'cause if you choose
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annuity,
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well, not-- you won't get to the FlexLife. All right?
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And we do sell their annuities as well.
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Um, and so this is what it's gonna look like.
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On the far right, you're gonna have an in spotlight that just talks about if
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they're making any changes, many- any enhancements. Maybe the rates are changing.
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That's kinda where they'll put that there.
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They do give you a line to their help
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desk. All right. So if you do need
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help running an illustration, your first step would be to reach out to
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us. Okay? I've done quite a bit of illustrations over the last month that
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I've been here with National Life, but if it's after...
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Well, don't call them if it's after hours.
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But if it's, uh, if you-- if we are not answering for whatever reason, or we just
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can't get back to you in a timely manner, call that number.
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They can help you design it. I would caution you that
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if you reach out to them, you need to be very detailed, okay?
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Because if you give them very little information of how you want it designed,
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they will design it how they think it should be designed.
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You need to be very detailed with what you are trying to
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accomplish with your IUL design. Okay?
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All right. Let's get into it. So you're gonna click New
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Illustration. Now, I want you to notice how
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every product pretty much has a regular
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pro- a, a regular name, and then it'll have the name
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with NL. Okay? Does everybody see
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that? Let's use Rapid Protect as my example.
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You see how they have Rapid Protect and they have Rapid Protect
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NL. I want to make note of the difference, 'cause this is very
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important and it will affect you if you sell the wrong one.
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The NL
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one is for captive agents, which you are
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not, or
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if you live in New York. Obviously, New York has its own set of rules,
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um, and so the NL product is designed for the state of New York
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or if you're a captive agent. All right? The benefits are a little different.
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The compensation structure is a little different.
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So if you don't live in New York, please, please, please,
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please do not sell an NL product,
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okay? The NL product is not for
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you. I want you to think of the NL product as it, it...
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Let's just assume the NL stands for no loser,
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okay? I don't want you to select it, and the only reason I say that is because
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if you sell that product, the client's not gonna know the difference, 'cause it
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looks the exact same, but you will definitely know the diff- difference in
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commission, okay? Um, and I don't want you calling me or
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Crystal or anybody at the life team here that we ch- we
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cheated you. You... We told you it was this comp, but no, it was this.
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It-- we got paid this. Don't sell it unless you're in New
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York. Unless you're selling in New York, you sell the regular product,
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okay? Don't be a loser. I, I say that very
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tongue in cheek, okay? It's just, it's a very easy acronym to remember if you're
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not in New York. So I'm gonna go right here, FlexLife.
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No matter what product you do, the software looks very similar.
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They use iPipeline. I will tell you, National Life is on
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WinFlex as well, so you can run the FlexLife
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there. I like the website just because I'm so used to it, but I've also done the
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WinFlex web- uh, illustration software as well.
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Now, National Life goes by closest birthday,
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so make sure you get actual date of birth.
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Don't just get age, because if their birthday is next month,
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National Life will already quote them at that age, okay?
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So let's just in- for this time, I'm just gonna do
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a thirty-five-year-old, and what we're gonna spend over the next twenty, thirty
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minutes is talking about different ways to illustrate this,
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okay? Um,
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I will preface with this. I don't expect y'all to remember all this, which
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is why
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if you go to the broker link and you go
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to Product Information, you go to the Life
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Hub
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maybe, and you go to the Learning Aids right next,
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right over my left shoulder,
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you'll see National Life Group Trainings, and I've recorded a bunch
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of these already. Okay? You can see we've done accumulation
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focus, college funding, income focus, protection focus.
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We've already got them up there on the back office site under the Learning Aids
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tab. Please don't leave this webinar right now just 'cause they're there, okay?
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They're very-- those are very simplified, and I wanna answer whatever questions you
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might have. Um, but the great, the beauty of
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this product is, is its customization, okay?
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Is the ability that no matter what the client's looking for, whether it's the
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protection, whether it's the accumulation, whether it's the college
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education, whether it's income, you can illustrate it
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with this product. All right, so I'm gonna go
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thirty-fiveUm, rate class, you can change it if
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you know your client well. You know your client better than I do.
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National Life does offer them what they qualify for, though.
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So if you submit it standard and they qualify for preferred, National
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Life will give them preferred, okay?
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You don't have to apply for preferred to try to get preferred.
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You can get it even if you qualify... go for standard.
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I'm gonna keep it standard, um, just for this
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purpose. Uh, table rating if you needed to change it, and then there's
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a flat extra if National Life came back and said, "Hey, we need to add a little bit
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of, um, we... add a little, add a little premium to the price." That
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wouldn't make sense, but hey, you know what? It doesn't matter. All right.
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We're gonna go to death benefit and funding, okay?
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And this is where we're going to start illustrating or we're gonna put in the
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definitions, and we're gonna define what we want in this illustration.
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What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna illustrate it a multitude of ways.
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We're gonna solve for accumulation. We'll solve for protection.
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We will solve for income. If we have time, I'll show you
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how to do college funding, okay? That, that one's... That's a fun one.
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Um, so let's start with the most common
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illustration, um, default, which is
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income, okay? So you see where it says up here, illustration solve.
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National Life has tried to make it very simple, and they
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give you some of these different options.
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So I'm gonna do solve for income, and I'm gonna let it default
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everything for me, and then I'm gonna explain those defaults, okay?
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So first of all, notice when you solve for income,
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when we come here to the death benefits
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section, it automatically puts minimum death,
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max cash, okay? So if you want to solve for income, you want as much
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income as possible, minimum death, max cash every
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single time, okay?
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Now, you'll notice that they
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then
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moved it to an increasing death benefit. I'm gonna be honest.
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I'm not a fan of increasing death benefit.
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Most people don't realize that with an increasing death benefit, if you never
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level it off, the cost of insurance over time continues to rise,
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um, and the IUL is designed, and hopefully, uh, you can design
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it to where the client doesn't have to pay.
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That flexibility is what really appeals to people with the
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IUL. Um, but if my cost of insurance continues to rise, it
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may start eating itself out, and I don't want this policy
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to have a chance of lap-lapsing. So what I would recommend is I would
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go level. That is a philosophy that
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I've done my pretty much entire, uh,
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career doing this. The only time I've really ever done
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increasing is if it's a child where maybe that cost
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of insurance is so nominal you never really run into it.
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I've done it a few times
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for someone who's a little bit later, uh, to the
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savings game, and they're trying to accumulate cash as quick as
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possible. So m-I might increase it a little bit for the first
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few years, um, but I try to go level as much as
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possible. I know there's people out there that say, "No, increasing is better.
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You're only increasing your commission." I'm not doing this for commission.
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I'm doing it to make sure that this policy
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stays in force for the long haul. Because if it doesn't and it
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surrenders, you're going to have a very, very unhappy client. All right.
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So that is just my philosophy. If you have a different
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philosophy, I'm not gonna tell you how to illustrate, but that's how I would do
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it. Okay? So I'm gonna go level. We then come to
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premium. All right. Now, with National Life, you can't solve for
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death benefit and for premium. You have to put in one or the
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other. So in this scenario where they're saying, "Hey,
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I just want as much income as possible," usually they're gonna
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give you a budget and say, "I can put away two hundred dollars a month, four
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hundred dollars a month." So what I'm gonna do is I'm just gonna do two fifty.
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Oops. You wanna make
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sure that the premium mode is monthly, and they default to monthly,
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so you usually won't have an issue, but just make sure it says monthly.
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Otherwise, it's two fifty a year, and I can just tell you right now, that won't
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work. Um, and then you'll notice again it
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defaults to one dash A sixty-four in
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the from dash through section. The from dash through section
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is how long are we paying this two fifty?
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Okay? So if you see a number, like the number one that
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you see right here, if you see a number, number means
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policy year, so policy year one. If
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you see a number with the A in front of it, that means
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age, age sixty-four. So I'm gonna pay
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two hundred and fifty dollars every month
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from policy year one till age sixty-four.
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I don't have to sit here and figure out what that math is.
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I can just put A sixty-four, okay? And then
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we can scroll down to the distribution
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information, okay? Distribution is where we're gonna put solve for
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income. Again, because I've already done the default, it already did my
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solve for income, and it defaults from A
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sixty-five to ninety. You
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can go to maturity, okay? National Life will
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illustrate all the way to age one twenty-one, and I'll show you
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that right here, okay? Or you can stay at the default age, ninety.
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The likelihood of your... The likelihood of most of your clients
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living past age ninety is not high.
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Average life expectancy right now is seventy-three for men,
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seventy-eight for women, okay?
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Um, and so that is it.
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That is all I have to do to show an income, okay? Some of...
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People call this an SRA, a supplemental retirement account.
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At the end of the day, it's still life insurance, but National Life is
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one of the originators of life in-lifetime income
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benefit rider. The LIBOR is a way to enact an
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income from the policy, um-Until that, that
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client passes. I won't get into that rider
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specifically, um, but National Life is designed for
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income in mind. Now, the only thing you have to do is-- 'cause if you
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notice, it still says over here on the left-hand side,
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"Calculations unavailable." Uh, that is because I need to put in
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my interest rates. So I'm gonna go over here on the left-hand side to Interest
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Rates,
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and here are the different strategies.
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National Life is notorious for having
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S&P five hundred strategies, but a few years back, they did
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add some volatility controlled indexes.
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Um, we could spend a whole hour talking about index
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strategies and, um, and the way they're designed.
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We're not gonna do that today. What I want you to pay attention to is these custom
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set preferences, okay? 'Cause what I...
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questions I always get when I was an agent and I was helping our ag- our
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agents, um, is, "What strategies?
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What-- How do I divvy up the money?" Um, it's really up to you.
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There's no right, there's no wrong.
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What National Life does is say, "Hey, you know what?
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Let's just give you, um, default ones, and you can use
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those or you can customize it yourself." Okay, so they give a low
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volatility and S&P cap focus diversified,
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S&P and Pacesetter. So if you go low volatility, you'll notice
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that they will put all of the money, fifty percent in balance trend,
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fifty percent in US Pacesetter.
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That's fine if you want. S&P cap focus, a hundred percent
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of the money in the S&P five hundred point cap focus.
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If you go diversified, it's gonna put twenty percent in all five of
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them. And the last one, it's gonna do fifty-fifty
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S&P point to point,
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um, fifty percent US
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Pacesetter. What I would recommend is if you wanna
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keep it simple, you wanna keep it as simple as possible for the
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client to understand, do the S&P cap
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focus, a hundred percent in the S&P,
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um, because that one's going to be the most straightforward and easiest to explain
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to the client. The, uh, the Pacesetter and the balance trend, because they're
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volatility controlled indexes and they don't mirror just one index
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market, um, it's a little bit more cumbersome to
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explain. Uh, and so I'd do that. And
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what you'll notice is it's not gonna illustrate any different.
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The illustrated rate at S&P is six point eight one.
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The illustrated rate on the Pacesetter is six point eight one.
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So no matter if you put a hundred percent here or a hundred percent
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here, it's going to look the exact same.
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Okay?
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You have to remember, an illustration is just that.
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It's just designed to illustrate what could be.
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It's not going to predict what's going to happen. All right?
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So I'm gonna keep it a hundred percent S&P, and
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now we can go over to the quick view to kinda see what this illustration looks
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like.
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Okay, so we've got a couple of different data points up
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top. Here's our death benefit, a hundred and seventy-nine thousand.
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That may or may not be enough for the client.
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If it's not enough, we can always raise it. We can make, we can make changes.
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Again, Flex Life, it's very flexible.
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We can go to the modal premium of two fifty every single month.
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That's perfect. Um, now National Life has two
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minimums. So again, if you, if you know anything about IUL, the
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IUL is designed for flexibility, okay?
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It's designed for that customization.
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They've got this minimum premium,
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and then they have the death benefit protection minimum premium.
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It's really only separated by about twenty bucks a year,
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um, but the death benefit protection premium is to
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keep... i-is the minimum premium per the, for the year that you
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need, that the client needs to pay to make the death benefit
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guaranteed for, I believe, at least twenty years. It might be twenty-five.
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Don't quote me. Um, so you're not building up cash
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value at that point, um, but you're at least keeping the
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living benefits. You're keeping the death benefit. You're keeping that in place.
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If you go below that, and you go down to this minimum, you lose that
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guarantee. You lose that rider, okay?
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So that means that your n-nine hundred and thirty bucks may not be
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enough because I'm losing that rider because I went below that death benefit
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protection. So anytime your client goes through issues, and they can't do this
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three thousand, make sure they stay above that death benefit
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protection premium at least, okay?
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And so now we have our illustration. We're paying our two fifty every month.
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We've got our death benefit. I want you to notice the two
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columns. Here's the accumulated value column.
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Here's the cash surrender value column.
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National Life has a ten-year surrender on their Flex Life
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IUL. So in year eleven
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is when the cash accumulated value and the cash surrender
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value are going to be the same
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because that's when our surrender period has gone away
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after those ten years. Um, a-again,
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IUL, no matter if you go National Life or any of our, uh, carrier
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partners, it's not designed for quick
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money. It's designed for a long-term. This is a steady...
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We're running a marathon. We're not running a sprint.
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Okay, now can you design it to
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be a sprint? You probably could. Um, I think the shortest
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pay IUL I ever did was seven years, uh, but that
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client was paying... It was a premium finance case, and
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that client was paying a hundred and seventy grand a year into his
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policy. All right? Very high net worth.
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He, he definitely was not doing Flex Life. We were definitely doing the Summit.
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Um,
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but you can design it that way. It doesn't just have to be smaller premiums.
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It can be large premiums. Um, and anytime you get into
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that, uh, advanced case design arena,
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let us know. We'll help you design it.
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National Life will help us design it, um, to make sure that we're
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designing it properly. Um,Now, when you
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scroll down, because we designed this for income, notice at age
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sixty-five we're gonna stop paying it and we're gonna start
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collecting our income, and it's projected to be just under twenty grand a
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year. That is a year, not a month, and that income
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can be tax-free if you take it out via a loan.
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Okay? You can withdraw it or take it out as a loan.
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If you withdraw it, you'll pay taxes on the growth.
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If you take it out as a loan, it is a loan against the cash value
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of your policy. Um, and what happens is if
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your, your client passes away before they pay
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that loan back, it's gonna be discounted from the death benefit upon
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death. Okay? So that is kinda how the carrier pays
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themselves back. They won't pay out the full death benefit. Okay?
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That's, again, that's not a national life thing. That's an IUL thing.
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Okay?
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So I'm gonna pause. Any questions on the income?
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Very simple how to design it. Uh, can you do an income for
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someone later? Yes, but the older the client is, it's...
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it really comes down to premium. Okay?
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'Cause let me do this. If someone has a question, please start...
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you can type it away. I'm gonna show you something.
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Let's just change our client from, instead of a thirty-five-year-old, let's make
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him a three-year-old. Okay?
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Let's go to quick view. Let's change nothing.
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We're gonna keep it exactly how I had it, but I want you to notice what happens to
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the death benefit. Well, it jumps to four forty-one because the cost of insurance
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is so small and the kid is so young, they get more death benefit.
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Oh, that's not the eraser. There's my eraser.
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Now, let's scroll down though.
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So now we're paying this, into this policy for sixty-plus
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years. We stop paying at sixty-five.
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Notice what the projected cash, the income
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is. Uh, I don't think any of you would
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be, uh, upset if you were able to help one of your clients get two hundred and
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twenty thousand dollars a year tax-free.
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I don't think any of us would be upset about that.
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Um, but again, they g- they're younger.
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The dollar goes a lot further because they're younger, and they have
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sixty years to accumulate cash value.
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I mean, at this point they're projected to have two point three million of cash
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value because, again, they've been paying into this policy for over sixty
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years. Okay? Now, if we change our client
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from a three-year-old
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to a fifty-year-old,
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I'm gonna change nothing. Again, I'm gonna keep it the exact...
467
00:26:59.538 --> 00:27:03.338
everything the same. Death benefit is just under a hundred
468
00:27:03.438 --> 00:27:06.698
thousand. It's 'cause they're older. And now let me scroll down.
469
00:27:07.018 --> 00:27:08.778
Let me erase that.
470
00:27:10.538 --> 00:27:14.378
Let me try to erase that. Stop paying at sixty-five, but look at the
471
00:27:14.418 --> 00:27:18.358
income, thirty-eight hundred. So the older the client
472
00:27:18.458 --> 00:27:21.258
is, it really comes down to premium.
473
00:27:21.318 --> 00:27:25.198
How much premium can they put into their policy, uh, to be able to
474
00:27:25.238 --> 00:27:29.178
build up cash value? As they get older, there might be a time
475
00:27:29.198 --> 00:27:32.898
where you can't, you can't fund it only for fifteen
476
00:27:32.978 --> 00:27:36.518
years. Okay? I was helping someone who wanted to get an IU- the
477
00:27:36.578 --> 00:27:39.398
IUL. Um, they wanted some... at sixty-four.
478
00:27:39.418 --> 00:27:43.398
They wanted an IUL and they were sixty-four years old, and they said, "I only
479
00:27:43.418 --> 00:27:47.378
wanna pay it for eight years. I only wanna pay three hundred dollars a month."
480
00:27:47.388 --> 00:27:51.298
That's just not enough time to allow the money to
481
00:27:51.358 --> 00:27:55.188
work for you, so that way it doesn't lapse. At that point she had to...
482
00:27:55.238 --> 00:27:58.938
I ran it, I ran it at fifteen years, it still lapsed.
483
00:27:59.018 --> 00:28:00.718
Um, I think I had to run it for twenty years.
484
00:28:00.758 --> 00:28:03.658
So even at sixty-four, at three hundred dollars a month, you had to run it for
485
00:28:03.718 --> 00:28:04.598
twenty years
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00:28:05.598 --> 00:28:09.288
just for that policy not to lapse. And at the end of the day, it's life
487
00:28:09.338 --> 00:28:12.578
insurance first, living benefits second, cash value
488
00:28:12.618 --> 00:28:16.598
third. I wanna make sure the policy's in force, God forbid they pass away
489
00:28:16.618 --> 00:28:20.228
or get sick. Okay? All right.
490
00:28:21.318 --> 00:28:23.768
No questions yet. Let's keep going. Let's...
491
00:28:23.778 --> 00:28:27.438
What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna close it out, I'm gonna restart just so that way my
492
00:28:27.458 --> 00:28:30.858
illustration... If you ever, uh, run an illustration and you've been working on the
493
00:28:30.898 --> 00:28:34.628
same client and you make change after change after change after change, I
494
00:28:34.638 --> 00:28:38.378
would either save it and close it out because the software can get a little
495
00:28:38.418 --> 00:28:42.048
funky via ipipeline, um, and
496
00:28:42.078 --> 00:28:45.058
sometimes even if you go back to how you originally illustrated, it doesn't
497
00:28:45.378 --> 00:28:47.468
populate the same an- or the same results.
498
00:28:47.938 --> 00:28:50.458
Um, so make sure you, you kinda close it out and restart.
499
00:28:50.498 --> 00:28:54.018
So I'm gonna go back. Let's go back to our thirty-five-year-old right
500
00:28:54.178 --> 00:28:57.278
now. Um, now let's say instead of
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00:28:57.878 --> 00:28:59.778
income, they just wanted accumulation.
502
00:28:59.798 --> 00:29:01.998
They, they don't care about the income aspect of it.
503
00:29:02.018 --> 00:29:04.298
They just wanna accumulate as much as possible.
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00:29:04.338 --> 00:29:07.938
Not really much changes, okay? So you can click solve for
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00:29:08.018 --> 00:29:11.978
income. Okay? I'm gonna g-go... I'm gonna design it
506
00:29:12.018 --> 00:29:15.758
the exact same way. Minimum death, max cash.
507
00:29:16.458 --> 00:29:20.158
I'm gonna come down to the premium section, specify amount.
508
00:29:20.178 --> 00:29:24.038
I'm gonna do two fifty. But notice it's right now defaulting
509
00:29:24.158 --> 00:29:26.078
annual, so let's change that to monthly.
510
00:29:28.198 --> 00:29:30.858
And you can do one of two things. I'd probably illustrate it this
511
00:29:30.918 --> 00:29:34.058
way. One dash M. M
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00:29:34.778 --> 00:29:38.478
stands for maturity. So basically, I'm gonna pay
513
00:29:38.518 --> 00:29:40.138
forever. Okay?
514
00:29:41.718 --> 00:29:45.538
So we've got our two fifty. I'm gonna change that to level.
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00:29:45.578 --> 00:29:49.558
Why are you still... Oh, I, I... Okay, notice anytime you
516
00:29:49.598 --> 00:29:53.398
see a red X, that means something's off, and all you have to do is scroll
517
00:29:53.438 --> 00:29:57.298
over the X to see what's off. It just says MEC avoidance is not valid
518
00:29:57.358 --> 00:30:00.158
unless you specify amount. So I just need to change this to
519
00:30:00.298 --> 00:30:03.198
none. Okay? It does not mean I will MEC it.
520
00:30:03.258 --> 00:30:07.198
It still has safeguards, um, but I have to click none
521
00:30:07.258 --> 00:30:10.678
in order to do the solve for. Okay? We go back to interest
522
00:30:10.798 --> 00:30:13.978
rates. I gotta set my interest rates again, so I'm gonna put a hundred
523
00:30:14.078 --> 00:30:18.018
percent. And now we're gonna go to quick view.
524
00:30:18.598 --> 00:30:21.698
So notice death benefit, one seventy-nine, didn't
525
00:30:21.758 --> 00:30:25.198
change. All that changed was I'm not taking out an
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00:30:25.258 --> 00:30:26.698
income.
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00:30:26.778 --> 00:30:30.610
Okay?Well, Colby, can they
528
00:30:30.670 --> 00:30:34.190
do the same thing? Can they not take an income, but can they stop p-pay-premium
529
00:30:34.230 --> 00:30:38.190
payments? Absolutely. If they tell you, "I wanna stop at age sixty" one
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00:30:38.210 --> 00:30:39.390
dash A sixty
531
00:30:40.630 --> 00:30:43.590
in the from dash through section of the premium
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00:30:43.870 --> 00:30:45.890
tab,
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00:30:46.930 --> 00:30:47.430
and now
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00:30:48.530 --> 00:30:52.310
go back to quick view and we can scroll down and notice, okay,
535
00:30:52.370 --> 00:30:56.030
boom. No more premium paying into it, but I'm not taking in
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00:30:56.090 --> 00:30:59.050
income 'cause it's not showing, so then we can just focus on the cash
537
00:30:59.110 --> 00:31:01.450
value.
538
00:31:03.950 --> 00:31:07.030
You don't have to illustrate it, and I'll, I'll make this note about an
539
00:31:07.050 --> 00:31:10.640
illustration. The illustration is not binding. Okay?
540
00:31:10.670 --> 00:31:14.110
So however you illustrate it here on the software does
541
00:31:14.210 --> 00:31:17.540
not mean that is how it's going to...
542
00:31:17.570 --> 00:31:21.110
It has to perf- uh, not perform, but that's how it has to be
543
00:31:21.150 --> 00:31:25.010
abided by forever. No. Every carrier, no
544
00:31:25.070 --> 00:31:28.410
matter who you illustrate with, assumes you're gonna pay forever.
545
00:31:28.430 --> 00:31:31.170
Okay? The illustration is just that again.
546
00:31:31.180 --> 00:31:34.750
It's just designed to show you what it could be, what it
547
00:31:34.930 --> 00:31:38.650
could look like, depending on whatever your objectives are.
548
00:31:38.900 --> 00:31:41.790
So if they come to you and say, "Okay, this looks great.
549
00:31:41.810 --> 00:31:45.450
What if I wanted to take out money at age fifty?" Okay.
550
00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:47.870
"I wanna go on a nice vacation for my fiftieth birthday.
551
00:31:47.990 --> 00:31:51.030
Can we illustrate that?" Yes, we can. Let's do it.
552
00:31:51.070 --> 00:31:54.450
So we're gonna go back to death benefit and funding.
553
00:31:54.490 --> 00:31:57.650
You're gonna scroll down to the distribution
554
00:31:57.770 --> 00:32:01.650
section. Okay? And what
555
00:32:01.670 --> 00:32:05.460
we're gonna do is I'm gonna change this to solve for...
556
00:32:05.460 --> 00:32:08.250
uh, not solve for. I'm gonna specify amount.
557
00:32:08.330 --> 00:32:11.850
We're g- in the amount section... Oh.
558
00:32:11.910 --> 00:32:15.450
Let's just say they want fifteen thousand because they want to
559
00:32:15.570 --> 00:32:19.510
go on a nice vacation over to Europe, and I
560
00:32:19.590 --> 00:32:22.290
don't even... f-fifteen thousand may not be enough.
561
00:32:22.310 --> 00:32:25.850
That's a, you know... We'll just do fifteen and just assume it's good.
562
00:32:25.890 --> 00:32:29.490
Okay, so I can put fifteen thousand, and then in the from dash through
563
00:32:29.630 --> 00:32:33.050
section, you need to put whatever age they want that money.
564
00:32:33.110 --> 00:32:36.950
So I'm gonna go fifty dash A fifty.
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00:32:36.990 --> 00:32:40.839
A fifty dash A fifty. That means at age fifty we're gonna take out fifteen
566
00:32:40.970 --> 00:32:43.220
thousand dollars. Now, can anybody...
567
00:32:43.230 --> 00:32:46.430
Does anybody notice an, an issue with my
568
00:32:46.490 --> 00:32:49.870
illustration just from looking at the distribution
569
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section?
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00:32:52.470 --> 00:32:56.390
I kept the distribution mode as monthly, so if I illustrate it and I go to
571
00:32:56.470 --> 00:33:00.170
quick view, it says I'm taking out fifteen thousand dollars every single
572
00:33:00.230 --> 00:33:04.040
month at age fifty. I don't wanna do that. I gotta go annual.
573
00:33:05.550 --> 00:33:08.630
I mean, I guess you could go monthly if you wanted to, but that policy's gonna run
574
00:33:08.710 --> 00:33:12.619
out of money at some point. All right, so I change annual,
575
00:33:12.650 --> 00:33:15.950
and now when I go to quick view,
576
00:33:17.210 --> 00:33:21.170
I'm paying my two fifty. At age fifty,
577
00:33:21.370 --> 00:33:23.150
I take out my fifteen thousand
578
00:33:23.190 --> 00:33:25.730
dollars.
579
00:33:26.550 --> 00:33:28.290
Let me erase real quick.
580
00:33:29.610 --> 00:33:31.810
And notice, I don't have to pay it back.
581
00:33:31.890 --> 00:33:34.150
What happens if I don't pay it back?
582
00:33:34.210 --> 00:33:37.830
Go over to the, uh, the death benefit, um,
583
00:33:37.870 --> 00:33:41.790
column. My death benefit is reduced by the amount I took
584
00:33:41.930 --> 00:33:43.410
out plus interest.
585
00:33:45.270 --> 00:33:47.790
National Life has a few different interest options.
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00:33:47.800 --> 00:33:51.490
You can do a variable loan, you can do a participating loan, you can do a
587
00:33:51.550 --> 00:33:55.350
fixed loan. I think the fixed loan is sitting at four point
588
00:33:56.670 --> 00:34:00.510
seven or four point eight right now, and the variable can go anywhere
589
00:34:00.570 --> 00:34:03.910
from three to seven, I believe. I think seven is the
590
00:34:04.030 --> 00:34:05.450
max. Um,
591
00:34:06.470 --> 00:34:10.460
so it's up to you. Um, now anytime someone takes money out
592
00:34:10.511 --> 00:34:12.690
early, what I would suggest
593
00:34:13.630 --> 00:34:17.380
is that they at least pay the interest back so that way the only
594
00:34:17.410 --> 00:34:20.770
thing that is owed is the actual money that they took out.
595
00:34:20.810 --> 00:34:24.591
Okay? But it's like paying yourself back because you're paying the money back
596
00:34:24.670 --> 00:34:28.430
into your policy. Okay? It's not bank on yourself.
597
00:34:28.450 --> 00:34:31.390
That philosophy is usually done via whole life.
598
00:34:31.490 --> 00:34:35.430
Um, but this is your cash value. This is your client's cash value that they
599
00:34:35.470 --> 00:34:38.450
can use as they see fit. Okay, so
600
00:34:38.490 --> 00:34:42.420
Colby, I wanna illustrate showing them paying something back to
601
00:34:42.470 --> 00:34:45.499
the interest. We can do that. Let's go back to death benefit and funding.
602
00:34:46.551 --> 00:34:50.531
Let's scroll down to loan repayment
603
00:34:50.611 --> 00:34:51.680
section.
604
00:34:53.350 --> 00:34:56.910
So now we can say, "Okay, we're gonna pay a
605
00:34:57.051 --> 00:35:00.220
thousand dollars extra a year." I'm gonna...
606
00:35:00.250 --> 00:35:03.450
Well, let me see. Oh. I need
607
00:35:03.490 --> 00:35:06.130
to... A
608
00:35:06.170 --> 00:35:09.320
fifty-one. You can't take out a...
609
00:35:09.330 --> 00:35:13.170
You can't make a loan payment where you're not taking out a loan.
610
00:35:13.210 --> 00:35:17.110
Okay? So I'm gonna make a... I'm gonna pay back a thousand dollars every
611
00:35:17.490 --> 00:35:17.850
year
612
00:35:18.770 --> 00:35:22.570
from starting at age fifty-one. And so now I can go
613
00:35:22.650 --> 00:35:25.210
back to quick view.
614
00:35:28.750 --> 00:35:32.730
Scroll down, and as you can see, I take out my fifteen thousand
615
00:35:32.810 --> 00:35:35.470
dollars. Here's my, um,
616
00:35:36.270 --> 00:35:38.310
loan plus the interest every year.
617
00:35:38.350 --> 00:35:41.430
Here's my extra thousand dollars.
618
00:35:41.490 --> 00:35:43.170
Okay?
619
00:35:44.330 --> 00:35:47.490
And let's see. Does it ever... Let's see. When does it get paid back?
620
00:35:47.510 --> 00:35:51.150
It gets paid back at age ninety-six if I continue to pay that
621
00:35:51.230 --> 00:35:53.090
thousand dollars back to my loan.
622
00:35:54.290 --> 00:35:56.730
At age ninety-six, I am done.
623
00:35:57.870 --> 00:36:01.430
So you can see, I'm, I'm barely paying over interest, but I'm covering
624
00:36:01.490 --> 00:36:05.470
enough so that way no matter what, at least it's only my fifteen thousand
625
00:36:05.530 --> 00:36:06.390
dollar that's owed
626
00:36:07.290 --> 00:36:10.510
and not anything more. That, that's where people get in trouble. Okay?
627
00:36:10.550 --> 00:36:14.490
They take money out early thinking, uh, they were sold, "Oh,
628
00:36:14.570 --> 00:36:17.950
you never have to pay it back," and that's true, but you also have to make sure
629
00:36:18.010 --> 00:36:21.590
there's still enough money in the cash value to self-sustain that
630
00:36:21.630 --> 00:36:25.550
policy. Okay? 'Cause you can get loan arbitrage with the
631
00:36:25.590 --> 00:36:28.850
loan you take out. You can make interest on the money that you
632
00:36:28.870 --> 00:36:32.830
borrow. Okay? 'Cause what National Life and any carrier does is they give you their
633
00:36:32.850 --> 00:36:35.550
money. They don't give you your money, and you can still make an
634
00:36:35.610 --> 00:36:38.878
interest-On the money you borrowed, okay?
635
00:36:38.938 --> 00:36:42.818
So if, if your interest rate is five but you get credited seven percent that
636
00:36:42.858 --> 00:36:45.948
year, you had two percent arbitrage that year, all right?
637
00:36:46.038 --> 00:36:49.388
Um, if you don't know what the heck I just said, do not worry about it.
638
00:36:49.418 --> 00:36:52.388
That's where I come in. I'll help you out. Um, but can...
639
00:36:52.458 --> 00:36:55.898
Again, I can illustrate showing paying that loan back.
640
00:36:55.938 --> 00:36:58.158
You can illustrate not showing paying it back.
641
00:36:58.198 --> 00:37:01.258
It is, it is up to you, okay? Um,
642
00:37:02.938 --> 00:37:03.278
let's
643
00:37:04.658 --> 00:37:06.998
pause for a second. Any questions?
644
00:37:07.008 --> 00:37:08.678
I get excited, so sometimes I speak
645
00:37:08.738 --> 00:37:11.358
quickly.
646
00:37:13.338 --> 00:37:17.158
I'm gonna close this real quickly, and I'm gonna open up a new one, 'cause I
647
00:37:17.238 --> 00:37:20.998
always like to refresh it, like I said.
648
00:37:23.098 --> 00:37:23.358
Okay.
649
00:37:23.378 --> 00:37:24.778
You're doing great co- Colby.
650
00:37:24.918 --> 00:37:27.578
Thank you. Thank you. I, I see-
651
00:37:27.738 --> 00:37:28.308
No questions yet.
652
00:37:28.418 --> 00:37:30.908
I see we lost somebody, so I m- I might have hurt...
653
00:37:30.958 --> 00:37:33.038
I might have confused them, and that's okay.
654
00:37:33.138 --> 00:37:34.118
Um, okay,
655
00:37:34.958 --> 00:37:38.938
let's, let's flip it, okay? I've shown you how to illustrate if they give
656
00:37:38.978 --> 00:37:42.778
you a premium, but what if they come to you, Colby, and say, "Hey, I need
657
00:37:42.858 --> 00:37:45.318
half a million dollars. What's that look like?" We can do that, too.
658
00:37:45.378 --> 00:37:47.118
I'm gonna, I'm gonna use my 35-year-old.
659
00:37:47.138 --> 00:37:51.058
Let's go female this time, okay? So
660
00:37:51.098 --> 00:37:53.878
we've got our 35-year-old
661
00:37:53.938 --> 00:37:57.238
female, and she comes to me and says, "I need
662
00:37:58.258 --> 00:38:01.638
h- half a million dollars. Um, I want this for
663
00:38:02.858 --> 00:38:06.498
accumulation." Great. So in the death be- I'm gonna
664
00:38:06.518 --> 00:38:10.328
ignore the illustration solve. I'm not gonna do any illustration solve.
665
00:38:10.358 --> 00:38:14.068
I'm gonna go straight to death benefit. You go to death benefit.
666
00:38:14.118 --> 00:38:16.998
You can put in your half a million dollars, okay?
667
00:38:17.008 --> 00:38:18.798
And now when we go to premium,
668
00:38:19.698 --> 00:38:23.498
you're gonna select the type, and the type, if you're going
669
00:38:23.618 --> 00:38:27.418
for accumulation, which means maximum accumulation, you need to go
670
00:38:27.498 --> 00:38:31.438
guideline level premium. This is the maximum premium I can put in
671
00:38:31.558 --> 00:38:34.118
on a consistent basis, okay?
672
00:38:35.638 --> 00:38:37.918
And I'm gonna keep it 1-maturity for now.
673
00:38:37.938 --> 00:38:41.038
I'll change it here in a second. Okay, and that's it.
674
00:38:42.298 --> 00:38:45.538
Make sure you go to your interest rates, add your interest rate that you need
675
00:38:45.618 --> 00:38:48.158
to, and then you can go to quick view.
676
00:38:48.218 --> 00:38:51.278
Okay, so what do we have? We've got our half a million dollar face
677
00:38:51.338 --> 00:38:54.618
amount. The guideline level premium is
678
00:38:54.638 --> 00:38:57.598
$621 a month, for
679
00:38:57.618 --> 00:39:00.458
$7,454 a year,
680
00:39:02.278 --> 00:39:06.178
and we had that showing forever. Okay, "Well, I don't wanna pay that forever.
681
00:39:06.198 --> 00:39:09.358
I only wanna pay that until I retire." Okay, when do you think you'll retire?
682
00:39:09.378 --> 00:39:13.138
"Eh, age 65." Great.
683
00:39:14.858 --> 00:39:17.778
One... Okay, not A1. I don't want age one.
684
00:39:17.818 --> 00:39:21.288
Come on. I wanna pay that from
685
00:39:21.558 --> 00:39:25.538
1-A65. We go to quick view, and
686
00:39:25.578 --> 00:39:28.718
notice what happens. At age 66, no more
687
00:39:28.758 --> 00:39:32.698
premium. Perfect. "Well, Colby, I... You know what?
688
00:39:32.778 --> 00:39:36.238
I think an income sounds great. Can I illustrate that?" Yes, you can.
689
00:39:36.298 --> 00:39:39.898
Distribution information. Solve for income.
690
00:39:39.958 --> 00:39:43.698
Notice what it defaults to, age 66-M.
691
00:39:45.378 --> 00:39:47.938
Go back to quick view.
692
00:39:48.958 --> 00:39:52.538
58K per year projected as tax-free income
693
00:39:52.778 --> 00:39:56.758
for your client to supplement Social Security, their 401, maybe
694
00:39:56.778 --> 00:40:00.378
they have a pension, Medicare, whatever the case may, may be.
695
00:40:03.738 --> 00:40:07.598
Do they still have the ability to take out money early and use the cash
696
00:40:07.658 --> 00:40:10.398
value instead of waiting? Yes, they do.
697
00:40:10.418 --> 00:40:14.158
I'm not gonna go illustrate it, but they have the cash surrender
698
00:40:14.238 --> 00:40:16.858
value column that you can say, "Okay, look, at age
699
00:40:17.138 --> 00:40:20.998
54, you're projected to have just under a quarter million
700
00:40:21.038 --> 00:40:24.798
dollars in your account. You can use it as you see fit." My rule of
701
00:40:24.858 --> 00:40:28.168
thumb is I wanna keep at least 25% of the cash value in
702
00:40:28.298 --> 00:40:31.658
there. So if you have $100,000 of cash value, take up to
703
00:40:31.858 --> 00:40:35.698
75K, leave the other 25K. Just know, if you don't pay it
704
00:40:35.738 --> 00:40:39.118
back, more than likely you're gonna have to at least keep paying premiums,
705
00:40:39.158 --> 00:40:42.258
okay?
706
00:40:43.598 --> 00:40:47.178
So again, you can illustrate if they give you a premium.
707
00:40:47.218 --> 00:40:49.698
You can illustrate if they give you a death benefit.
708
00:40:49.738 --> 00:40:52.738
There's a lot of functionality with the
709
00:40:52.758 --> 00:40:56.238
FlexLife, um, that really, like I said, can
710
00:40:56.318 --> 00:40:58.858
fit anybody's needs. I'm not gonna...
711
00:40:58.898 --> 00:41:01.158
I already showed the kid with the college funding.
712
00:41:01.258 --> 00:41:05.138
Um, here's a good thing to note. National Life,
713
00:41:05.158 --> 00:41:09.088
with juveniles, they go up to half a million dollars, um,
714
00:41:09.138 --> 00:41:13.038
for juveniles without the parents having to have anything,
715
00:41:13.058 --> 00:41:16.458
okay? That's a change, because it used to be that both parents had to have the
716
00:41:16.498 --> 00:41:20.278
same. Um, if you need to go above half a million on the kid for
717
00:41:20.298 --> 00:41:24.258
whatever reason, maybe you're talking to Warren Buffett's children, I don't know,
718
00:41:24.378 --> 00:41:24.698
um,
719
00:41:25.858 --> 00:41:29.158
it's... They take the death benefit of the parent that has the
720
00:41:29.198 --> 00:41:33.138
most. So if mom has a million and dad has 750,
721
00:41:33.198 --> 00:41:36.018
child can get up to a million, okay?
722
00:41:36.138 --> 00:41:37.338
Um, juveniles,
723
00:41:38.218 --> 00:41:40.727
they only do standard rates, okay?
724
00:41:40.798 --> 00:41:43.948
I know there's some carriers out there that will do preferred on juveniles.
725
00:41:44.058 --> 00:41:47.558
Uh, National Life is not one.
726
00:41:48.178 --> 00:41:51.778
But let's go to the juvenile. Let's talk about
727
00:41:51.938 --> 00:41:53.018
college funding.
728
00:41:53.998 --> 00:41:55.658
I'm gonna change this to a three-year-old.
729
00:41:55.678 --> 00:41:59.138
Now, this strategy really works and, and bear with me.
730
00:41:59.158 --> 00:42:02.658
Don't worry about what I'm doing. I'm just clearing a few things out real quick.
731
00:42:02.778 --> 00:42:04.998
Um,
732
00:42:07.598 --> 00:42:08.158
none.
733
00:42:09.338 --> 00:42:10.398
Yeah, okay. Um,
734
00:42:11.538 --> 00:42:15.138
this really only works with younger kids, okay?
735
00:42:15.198 --> 00:42:18.808
Someone who's already tw- 11, 12, 13,
736
00:42:19.258 --> 00:42:22.458
it's gonna be tough to accumulate enough cash, um,
737
00:42:23.038 --> 00:42:23.398
to
738
00:42:24.378 --> 00:42:28.218
s- help fund college expenses. Um, so someone
739
00:42:28.278 --> 00:42:32.068
who's y- younger, much better. Um, both...
740
00:42:32.098 --> 00:42:34.498
I've got two kids. Both of my kids, I got their policies.
741
00:42:34.518 --> 00:42:38.018
I got them IULs at age one, and I plan to use it for college
742
00:42:38.058 --> 00:42:41.464
expenses. Um-Um, I'm hoping they get
743
00:42:41.494 --> 00:42:44.954
scholarships, and who knows, by the time my kids go to college it might be so
744
00:42:44.974 --> 00:42:48.824
expensive that only the elite can go. So we'll see.
745
00:42:48.834 --> 00:42:52.334
But the great thing... Okay, well, Colby, why didn't you get a five twenty-nine?
746
00:42:52.354 --> 00:42:55.634
Well, the five twenty-nine is only for education costs.
747
00:42:55.714 --> 00:42:59.234
If they never go to school or they get scholarships and get everything paid for, I
748
00:42:59.314 --> 00:43:02.574
can't use it for anything else without being penalized.
749
00:43:02.654 --> 00:43:06.614
IUL, no penalty. If they never use it for college, great. That's fine.
750
00:43:06.634 --> 00:43:10.574
They can use it for other things. Um, they can use it for their own retirement.
751
00:43:10.654 --> 00:43:13.854
Uh, they can use it as an investment opp- They can use the cash to be able to
752
00:43:13.874 --> 00:43:16.954
invest in other areas, you know, the market or real estate or something.
753
00:43:17.594 --> 00:43:21.034
Um, they've got a lot of flexibility with that cash, and there's no rhyme or reason
754
00:43:21.074 --> 00:43:24.834
to what... National Life is not gonna sit here and say, "You can't use it for
755
00:43:24.894 --> 00:43:28.454
that." Nope. You need money, you gotta... You've got the money. Great. Here you go.
756
00:43:28.474 --> 00:43:32.114
All right, so let's go to our three-year-old.
757
00:43:32.194 --> 00:43:35.854
Let's just... I'm going for education costs, so I'm gonna go
758
00:43:35.914 --> 00:43:39.834
minimum death, max cash. Minimum death, max cash is
759
00:43:39.894 --> 00:43:42.914
getting as much money as possible.
760
00:43:44.254 --> 00:43:47.694
Let's go specify amount. Let's just do two fifty,
761
00:43:47.794 --> 00:43:51.654
okay? Um, what I would also... As an agent, when
762
00:43:51.694 --> 00:43:55.504
someone would say, "I wanna help fund, uh, my kid's education," Great.
763
00:43:55.554 --> 00:43:58.134
How much do you wanna put away? Fifty bucks.
764
00:43:58.174 --> 00:44:01.974
Fifty bucks a year is six hundred dol- or fifty bucks a month is six hundred
765
00:44:02.034 --> 00:44:05.614
dollars a year. You do that for ten years, it's six thousand dollars.
766
00:44:05.634 --> 00:44:09.114
You do it for twenty years, that's twelve thousand dollars.
767
00:44:09.234 --> 00:44:11.454
Maybe you make a little bit of money on that.
768
00:44:11.474 --> 00:44:14.354
It's just, is that gonna be enough for education? Probably not.
769
00:44:14.414 --> 00:44:17.674
So they just... You have to set those realist- realistic
770
00:44:17.774 --> 00:44:21.514
expectations that if they save fifty bucks, I can't turn fifty bucks
771
00:44:21.694 --> 00:44:25.274
into college education funding fully.
772
00:44:25.314 --> 00:44:28.744
I might be able to pay for certain things. Maybe I can pay for room and board.
773
00:44:28.794 --> 00:44:32.694
Maybe I can pay for books. Um, it depends on where, where they're going to school,
774
00:44:32.734 --> 00:44:36.614
right? Um, but you just have to set that expectation that this is only as good
775
00:44:36.654 --> 00:44:39.274
as the money you can put in and the time you have to put that in.
776
00:44:39.334 --> 00:44:39.494
So
777
00:44:40.334 --> 00:44:43.714
I'm gonna just go put two fifty. They understand that they need to put some money
778
00:44:43.724 --> 00:44:47.604
into it. Um, and w-when you go to Quick View, you can
779
00:44:47.654 --> 00:44:51.054
show it this way. You can just say, "Okay, look, at age eighteen
780
00:44:51.954 --> 00:44:53.854
they're projected to have sixty-five K.
781
00:44:53.894 --> 00:44:57.654
That's, that's the money you can use for education." I like to illustrate it, and
782
00:44:57.714 --> 00:45:01.254
I've got two ways I would illustrate it.
783
00:45:01.314 --> 00:45:04.774
The first way, so we're gonna come back down to Distribution
784
00:45:04.834 --> 00:45:08.334
Information, is I would go Specify
785
00:45:08.354 --> 00:45:12.044
Amount, and I'm just gonna do twelve
786
00:45:12.174 --> 00:45:13.294
thousand dollars
787
00:45:14.294 --> 00:45:18.274
annually from a... I'm gonna go nineteen
788
00:45:18.334 --> 00:45:21.294
'cause most of the time we're not having to pay it.
789
00:45:21.374 --> 00:45:24.174
You know, it's a, it's a mix between eighteen and nineteen, so I'm just gonna do
790
00:45:24.234 --> 00:45:25.674
nineteen. They got an early birthday.
791
00:45:26.594 --> 00:45:28.554
Twenty twenty-one, twenty-two.
792
00:45:32.794 --> 00:45:35.814
All right. Age nineteen to age
793
00:45:35.854 --> 00:45:39.154
twenty-two. I'm gonna take out twelve thousand dollars
794
00:45:40.034 --> 00:45:43.824
all four years to help pay for those education costs.
795
00:45:43.854 --> 00:45:47.174
Now, when I go to Quick View,
796
00:45:49.494 --> 00:45:52.714
I'm paying my premium, I've got my death benefit, and then
797
00:45:52.814 --> 00:45:56.534
boom, twelve thousand dollars. Year one, take the money out,
798
00:45:56.594 --> 00:45:58.954
boom, help pay for education. Year two, same thing.
799
00:45:58.974 --> 00:46:00.894
Three, four, boom, done.
800
00:46:02.614 --> 00:46:04.714
Is twelve thousand enough for education?
801
00:46:04.754 --> 00:46:07.514
It really depends on where you're going. Okay.
802
00:46:07.574 --> 00:46:10.474
A major state school, probably not.
803
00:46:10.514 --> 00:46:13.634
Maybe a smaller state school, maybe.
804
00:46:13.734 --> 00:46:17.334
Uh, maybe they stay close to home and they don't... They stay at the house.
805
00:46:17.374 --> 00:46:19.794
Maybe you don't want that. I... You know, it's a great question.
806
00:46:19.874 --> 00:46:23.434
Um, but I can illustrate it like that. I can even illustrate more.
807
00:46:23.514 --> 00:46:26.214
I, I even do this sometimes. Oh my gosh.
808
00:46:26.314 --> 00:46:28.334
I want the eraser.
809
00:46:30.254 --> 00:46:33.994
Let's do this. I'm gonna add a row to the Premium
810
00:46:34.074 --> 00:46:35.474
section.
811
00:46:40.454 --> 00:46:43.934
What the heck did I just do, Colby? Great question.
812
00:46:43.974 --> 00:46:47.914
What I just did was I'm gonna pay my two fifty every month
813
00:46:48.654 --> 00:46:52.334
all the way to age eighteen. At age nineteen, when I'm taking money
814
00:46:52.454 --> 00:46:56.394
out for those college expenses, I'm not gonna
815
00:46:56.454 --> 00:47:00.394
pay my premium, and then once... Oh, I need to change that.
816
00:47:02.454 --> 00:47:06.274
Go back to fifty. And then once we're done paying for those college
817
00:47:06.334 --> 00:47:09.894
expenses, we'll start up the two fifty again.
818
00:47:09.954 --> 00:47:13.914
So now, not only do I have the twelve thousand dollars I'm taking
819
00:47:14.014 --> 00:47:17.714
out, I have the three thousand dollars a year I'm no longer
820
00:47:17.754 --> 00:47:21.434
paying to this policy. So I've got my twelve thousand dollars, add
821
00:47:21.474 --> 00:47:25.334
another three grand, now I've got fifteen thousand dollars to play with.
822
00:47:25.374 --> 00:47:28.874
Now we're paying for a college education.
823
00:47:31.234 --> 00:47:34.704
Once they graduate, and they, and they have their...
824
00:47:34.714 --> 00:47:38.554
hopefully have a job and they're starting their career, you can
825
00:47:38.614 --> 00:47:42.094
transfer ownership to them. There will be a small tax consequence because of
826
00:47:42.134 --> 00:47:45.104
ownerf- ownerf- ownership transfer.
827
00:47:45.214 --> 00:47:47.814
Um, but then they can start paying into their policy.
828
00:47:47.914 --> 00:47:51.724
Obviously they took a loan out early, so, you know, we wanna make sure that this
829
00:47:51.734 --> 00:47:55.584
policy still survives. But because it's a kid, again, more than likely
830
00:47:55.614 --> 00:47:59.194
it will. Um, and that kid can increase those premiums over
831
00:47:59.234 --> 00:48:02.244
time. So that's one way to illustrate.
832
00:48:02.274 --> 00:48:03.004
The other way
833
00:48:04.334 --> 00:48:07.994
you could do it, and I'm gonna delete that one, and I'm gonna go back to
834
00:48:08.194 --> 00:48:10.854
paying premiums forever for now,
835
00:48:13.154 --> 00:48:16.914
is instead... Let's do... No, let's do
836
00:48:16.974 --> 00:48:18.894
sixty.
837
00:48:22.874 --> 00:48:25.954
Just give me a minute. I'm just putting... There we go.
838
00:48:25.964 --> 00:48:29.474
All right. Instead of taking money out
839
00:48:29.974 --> 00:48:32.534
all four years, why don't we keep the money in there?
840
00:48:32.574 --> 00:48:36.454
Let's u- let, let's let interest do its thing for those four
841
00:48:36.514 --> 00:48:40.314
years. Let's, uh, keep accruing, and instead we'll try to
842
00:48:40.374 --> 00:48:42.884
apply for scholarships, we'll try to apply for grants.
843
00:48:42.914 --> 00:48:46.534
We'll get as much of the college education expenses paid for as we
844
00:48:46.554 --> 00:48:50.346
possibly can.And whatever is
845
00:48:50.386 --> 00:48:54.096
left over will go get student loans. Oh my gosh, student loans. I know.
846
00:48:54.426 --> 00:48:58.296
I, I don't want you to freak out, but more than likely the kid has not started
847
00:48:58.326 --> 00:49:01.766
their credit journey, and we all know that's a fun journey to start.
848
00:49:01.866 --> 00:49:05.746
Um, so I can... We can do the student loans to st- har- start to help
849
00:49:05.766 --> 00:49:09.626
building their credit, but you don't have to pay
850
00:49:09.666 --> 00:49:13.196
those student loans back until six months after you leave,
851
00:49:13.306 --> 00:49:15.456
um, the education
852
00:49:17.226 --> 00:49:20.486
timeline, whatever that is, after you graduate. Geez, Colby.
853
00:49:20.586 --> 00:49:23.146
Um, six months. So you have six months after that.
854
00:49:24.166 --> 00:49:25.046
So what you can do
855
00:49:26.506 --> 00:49:29.226
is say, "Okay, boom, we'll take $60,000
856
00:49:29.306 --> 00:49:32.766
out," pay off the student loan from the
857
00:49:32.906 --> 00:49:33.626
get-go,
858
00:49:35.026 --> 00:49:38.406
and now we've paid for our college education, but the child
859
00:49:38.986 --> 00:49:40.806
was able to start building up their credit.
860
00:49:42.226 --> 00:49:45.766
That is another way I've had many people illustrate it. It really doesn't matter.
861
00:49:45.786 --> 00:49:49.526
It's personal preference. Um, but either way
862
00:49:49.706 --> 00:49:50.266
will work
863
00:49:51.086 --> 00:49:52.356
w- with how you want to illustrate it.
864
00:49:52.366 --> 00:49:55.186
And again, you don't even have to actually do this part of it.
865
00:49:55.226 --> 00:49:56.976
You could just say, "Look at this cash value.
866
00:49:57.006 --> 00:50:00.936
You can use the cash value to help pay for those education costs."
867
00:50:00.946 --> 00:50:04.586
But when you can illustrate it, it just visually, it helps.
868
00:50:04.646 --> 00:50:06.566
Okay?
869
00:50:08.446 --> 00:50:11.906
Okay. Woo. I told you I was gonna throw a lot at
870
00:50:11.986 --> 00:50:15.946
you. I told you. I'm gonna tell you right now, I know most of you will
871
00:50:16.006 --> 00:50:19.466
forget everything I just said. Please, broker link
872
00:50:20.166 --> 00:50:23.986
or go to product information, go to the Life Hub,
873
00:50:24.126 --> 00:50:28.066
learning aids. I've got those videos, and I've broken it down.
874
00:50:28.106 --> 00:50:31.546
So most of these videos are s- eight to 11 minutes
875
00:50:31.626 --> 00:50:34.916
long. You can focus on the college, the income, the
876
00:50:34.946 --> 00:50:38.806
protection. I even go into a little bit more detail,
877
00:50:38.926 --> 00:50:41.846
um, with some of those ways to
878
00:50:41.866 --> 00:50:45.566
illustrate. Uh, if you wanna learn more about illustrating Rapid
879
00:50:45.646 --> 00:50:48.946
Protect, I've got it. Uh, you wanna learn more about
880
00:50:49.206 --> 00:50:53.076
the, um, second to die IUL with Survivor,
881
00:50:53.106 --> 00:50:56.496
we've got it. You wanna learn about the basic secure FUL?
882
00:50:56.546 --> 00:51:00.286
That's a fixed universal life. Everything is pretty much the same except for it's a
883
00:51:00.346 --> 00:51:03.846
fixed rate of return, not an index rate of return.
884
00:51:03.886 --> 00:51:06.886
We've got it. You wanna learn about the whole life? We've got it.
885
00:51:06.926 --> 00:51:09.906
I'm not gonna do a video on term because a term's a term's a term.
886
00:51:09.926 --> 00:51:12.406
It's easy to quote, and it's on our quoter.
887
00:51:12.486 --> 00:51:16.046
Um, but I do wanna make note of one more thing.
888
00:51:16.126 --> 00:51:17.916
I told you, National Life, living benefits.
889
00:51:17.926 --> 00:51:21.846
That is what they are known for.
890
00:51:21.856 --> 00:51:25.566
Well, last year, they enhanced it, so we already lo- talked about their
891
00:51:25.586 --> 00:51:28.566
chronic care rider, their premium one. That one does cost.
892
00:51:28.606 --> 00:51:32.516
Their, their original basic chro- chronic illness rider comes
893
00:51:32.546 --> 00:51:34.916
with the product, comes with the policy.
894
00:51:35.006 --> 00:51:38.806
Every single living benefit that National Life offers automatically
895
00:51:38.866 --> 00:51:42.506
comes with the policy. National Life can take them away for health
896
00:51:42.546 --> 00:51:45.966
issues, okay? But they come with the policy.
897
00:51:45.986 --> 00:51:48.986
The premium one, you gotta pay a little bit of money, and you get the premium
898
00:51:49.046 --> 00:51:52.866
payout. Okay? But what they also added that I really didn't talk about was
899
00:51:52.906 --> 00:51:55.366
this compassionate care program.
900
00:51:56.146 --> 00:51:59.986
It is only on the FlexLife, okay? You can't get this on any other product.
901
00:52:00.006 --> 00:52:03.966
But what it does is it basically, through a company called Home Thrive,
902
00:52:04.046 --> 00:52:07.806
I mentioned to it... mentioned it to you on the living benefit breakdown.
903
00:52:09.106 --> 00:52:12.926
It is a third party that all clients that have a FlexLife that has been
904
00:52:12.946 --> 00:52:16.646
written la- late last year and, and on,
905
00:52:17.286 --> 00:52:20.626
um, has a third party that helps with other
906
00:52:20.726 --> 00:52:24.546
areas of your life, okay,
907
00:52:24.646 --> 00:52:28.626
as the client. So they can help with Alzheimer's or dementia support
908
00:52:28.706 --> 00:52:31.706
because how many of us can understand and know what that
909
00:52:31.786 --> 00:52:35.306
undertaking, um, entails? They can help with
910
00:52:35.346 --> 00:52:38.086
disability, chronic conditions, veterans.
911
00:52:38.106 --> 00:52:41.496
Um, some of you, obviously us here at the brokerage, we're very...
912
00:52:41.506 --> 00:52:44.506
We do a lot of Medicare. Some of you might do a lot of Medicare.
913
00:52:44.546 --> 00:52:47.566
You may not need help with this. But for those of you that don't, they've got
914
00:52:47.606 --> 00:52:50.666
assistance through Home Thri- Home Thrive that can help with Medicare
915
00:52:51.106 --> 00:52:54.586
navigation, hospice, legal, financial, senior living.
916
00:52:54.686 --> 00:52:58.346
Um, here is that flyer that talks more about it.
917
00:52:58.366 --> 00:53:01.966
It's a 24/7 personalized care rep
918
00:53:02.426 --> 00:53:05.366
for the clients of FlexLife. Okay?
919
00:53:05.466 --> 00:53:08.706
Um, just again, taking the extra step
920
00:53:09.486 --> 00:53:13.366
with their living benefits. This is not necessarily a living benefit,
921
00:53:13.406 --> 00:53:14.686
but it is an, an, an
922
00:53:15.606 --> 00:53:19.486
massive additional value benefit that no one
923
00:53:19.566 --> 00:53:22.676
else offers. Um, Transamerica has something very similar
924
00:53:23.266 --> 00:53:27.186
through their concierge planning rider on their IUL.
925
00:53:27.266 --> 00:53:31.026
It's very similar to this, and, uh, those are massive
926
00:53:31.106 --> 00:53:35.086
additions to those products. Um, the only other one that I didn't talk
927
00:53:35.146 --> 00:53:38.706
about is they, National Life also has a fertility journey
928
00:53:38.826 --> 00:53:42.046
rider, meaning that if a client is going through fertility
929
00:53:42.086 --> 00:53:45.486
treatments, National Life has the ability where they can access
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00:53:45.566 --> 00:53:49.366
cash, um, where they can access cash
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value to help pay for it without s- type surrenders.
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And, and there's more to it than just that, but National Life, like I
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said, if you forget everything, just remember they own
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the living benefits space. Okay? That is where
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they thrive. A- and you would be hard,
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hard-pressed to find another carrier that has
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better living benefits. And I, you know, I, I try to
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be, um, as objective and not subjective as
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possible. Um, als- obviously, I'm a little biased because
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I've been working with National Life so long, but I've worked with a lot of other
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carriers, and National Life with their living benefits,
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I will subjectively say I think are the best in the industry.
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Okay? Um, Crystal, I know a question
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popped up, but you answered it really quickly. Any- anything else?
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No other questions.
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I-
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Sorry. Go ahead.
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I, I have to say, you get more questions than I do. I think I, I might- ...
949
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I might have been, I might have gone too fast, and I just get so excited, and we
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literally have five minutes, and we could spend another hour talking FlexLife.
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I think you, you did it really well, and you went through it thoroughly that
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I think that's why we don't have that many questions, and that's okay.
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Um, one thing I do want to mention to you guys...
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Let me just share my screen really quick.
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Um, I wanna show you guys where you can get your, um,
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product information
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and also in our term quote engine. Let me take
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a look here. Okay. So I... If you're
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looking for agent guides, if you're looking for the underwriting guides
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for this particular product or for any of the NLG
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products, click on Product Information, do a product
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search. You can select a specific product, or you can click
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Life, and it'll pull up all of our life carriers and products.
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So we have pretty much all of them on here for
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you. So when you click on Flex Life iUL, you have your
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consumer buyer's guide, a client flyer, um,
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understand their, um, their easy underwriting, which is their
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accelerated underwriting program, um, and also the
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product guide for you guys as the agents and a quick reference of this
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specific product. Another thing is, is if you're going to
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run term quotes with, um, this
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carrier, you're going to find it under Life Insurance
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Company of the Southwest when you're using our term quote
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engine. Um, so when you run the quote, you'll look for a
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carrier that looks like this, LSW, member of National Life Group.
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The last thing I want to mention is if you're going to run the quote in
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WinFlex, um, and you're registering, you will
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not receive a National Life Group, um, in
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here. What you'll have to do is once you get contracted and
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appointed, you'll be able to come through your,
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your, uh, WinFlex web portal, and what you're gonna
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do is you're gonna add a company. You're gonna look for National
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Life Group, but mine isn't on here anymore because I've already requested it.
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You'll put in your agent code, and you'll click Place
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Request. And that's how, um, you'll be able to
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see National Life Group in WinFlex when all of that
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is approved. Any more
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questions?
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Do we still need to do the prequalification form before
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we start this process?
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Um, it's always best to, uh, talk to your client and get to know,
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um, you know, their health. Um, you know, it's just
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like any kind of other regular life product.
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So make sure you're reaching out to them.
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You can use that prequalifier form that we have on file as well, or not on
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file, but on our website for you to download and use.
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And I'll be able to send that to you guys, um,
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in the email along with the recording and other
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pieces.
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Other than that, Bulby,
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thank you for joining.
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Yeah. Absolutely.
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And thank you guys for joining. I'll send out to the re...
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I'll send out the recording here in a little bit.
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Thank you, everyone. Have a good one.


